Update: 25 March 2019
There has been a lot of speculation around Eden Park's viability- both in the media and elsewhere.
We were aware there had been
discussions around funding for quite some time and always expected Council to
continue to support Eden Park.
So it's good
that this support has been confirmed and that the ridiculous scare stories that
Eden Park was failing and needed concerts or it would become state housing can
finally be put to rest. That was never going to be the case, and we see this
as reaffirming Eden Park's key sporting focus.
over of Eden Park debts on favourable terms, provides interest savings on top
of the annual grant of $3.2m.
To put the Council support into context,
the yearly cash injection, and interest savings, make an even better
contribution than hosting a Lions tour every year.
Eden Park previously walked away
from cost sharing options with Council's other stadiums. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11333220
So it was
good to see that this is now likely to happen as part of Council's decision,
and will add even more profit and cash to Eden Park's bottom line, and future
However there continues to be a campaign around
It is easy to see the issues around mitigating the
noise effects on thousands of people, in the images below:
Both are at same scale, and measurements are taken
from stage/speaker tower locations.
1. Firstly Mt. Smart, with a 125m measurement from speaker towers to nearest house on Walters Rd:
Now the same scale for the streets around Eden Park, based off speaker distance measurements.Showing Walters Rd on the right, running within the car park at Mt Smart. And showing Cricket/Lower Kowhai and Bellwood andAnd the topography of the area will see high volume noise spread over a considerable distance.
Reimers within the grounds of Mt Smart.
Update 5 Dec 2018
The government and Auckland Transport are proposing that a LightRail route between Wynyard quarter and the airport pass along Dominion Rd.
It has a large number of impacts on the area.
We have begun investigating what details are available, as AT consultation is open until 14 Dec.
The following 3 pdf documents start to bring some of the information together:
Please take the time to submit:
Update re submissions. There was a lot of miss-information around submission numbers and support / opposition. Having now gone through submissions and removed the out of area ones (even as far as Wanaka!) we see that the majority of local submissions opposed the concert proposal.
Eden Park Trust
have indicated they will withdraw their concert application.
it's worth looking at the whole process/project:
Sir Avery chose the day/date for his charity concert and chose a venue where
concerts aren't permitted.
Eden Park has no noise limits worked out in the Unitary Plan for concerts.
Eden Park has tried and failed to get concerts multiple times.
Eden Park put in an application without a noise limit
Eden Park applied to work all through the concert night/next day on dismantling.
Eden Park provided no details on pack in/pack out noise.
Eden Park used noise models lower than Forsyth Barr.
has 39 corporate boxes, and a lounge for almost 1000. It also has numerous
eg athletic track and fields for other activities.
The image below is an overlay of the closest streets around Eden Park, measured from front/centre of a stage.
Within 1 Km
of Mt Smart – only 93 houses
of Eden Park – 4000 dwellings
Update 24 July 2018
There have been a number of incorrect media statements recently.
It’s worth returning to the big picture.
· Sir Avery
chose the day/date for his charity concert and chose a venue where
· Eden Park has
no noise limits worked out in the Unitary Plan for concerts.
· Eden Park has
tried and failed to get concerts multiple times.
· Eden Park put
in an application without a noise limit
· Eden Park
applied to work all through the concert night/next day on dismantling.
· Eden Park
provided no details on pack in/pack out noise.
· Eden Park used
noise models lower than
Over the last few months there has also been a stream of assertions that
Eden Park use to underpin the need for concerts.
A half Billion $ asset. – costs/revaluations to date are $ 268m - that’s the value invested to
date by rugby and cricket and the government. They have a $442m insured
replacement but that’s irrelevant.
Can’t repay debts
In the last 3 years they have repaid loans of almost $3m (Loans: $52.3m
in 2015, down to $49.5m as at Oct 2017). And they still have $2.3m in term
investments. Most of these loans were due to extra things the Trust wanted from the
RWC redevelopment eg new East stand, above that funded by the government.
They made a $4m profit last year before depreciation.
They also took $640,000 out of the wider charity fund pool for other charites via
Pokie fund applications granted last year.
Eden Park always makes a profit pre Depreciation.
While they choose to depreciate buildings faster than other stadiums, it is just an accounting entry. The previous depreciation for the old South stand wasn’t expected to fund a brand new replacement, and government funding was used instead. This will be the case for any future replacements. Therefore on a pre depreciation basis the Trust is profitable, and as above is repaying debts.
Apart from major sporting events, they undertake numerous other sporting
events eg No 2/training facilities etc.
They also hold 1000 functions a year, many of which a large school
balls, corporate functions. And of course full daily use as offices. It is an
intensively used site, and therefore had appropriate planning rules.
Will be state housing
This scare tactic was used in the “push” survey.
Factually, there is no existing proposed CBD alternative that would see Eden Park closed.
And that if the region and sports codes backed a CBD option, it won’t be for
another 10-15 years. Regardless of concerts. In fact if Eden Park get concerts
it will reduce Council revenue, and increase our rates.
BUT – there would need to be a proper plan change done to the Unitary Plan
for new uses. This would be open to submissions, appeals etc. With a large site
like this, it would get a proper coordinated plan.
At any rate as a local community, we would have a say via a Unitary Plan
These assertions have taken hold with some people, so worth the actual
Eden Park makes 6th attempt for concerts
at Eden Park
Open July2018 Newsletter
Eden Park starts concerts push with a NO NOISE
LIMIT application !!
Put your submission in this week - follow link below - click make a submission
Link below has full application - also see submission points below
close 5pm 12 July.
Update: some people were unaware this isn’t just a one-off, but part of full concert push -these links show EP intention, prior to meeting Sir Avery, and Council view after moving speedway (allow more concerts at Eden Park):
Eden Park want to be "concert central". This could mean 6
concerts or more a year. To start this they have applied for a
"charity" themed concert.
The application highlights their continued belief that they should have
no constraints, by having no noise limit.
By applying without a noise limit, they appear to want to ignore the
residential constraints and to run an event at whatever set up and noise level
they want - regardless of impacts on the neighbourhood.
• This time is worse with no
proposed noise limit
• Noise model not for full concert setup/configuration
• No crowd noise modelled
• 7-8 days of setup - including a full 24hr
/overnight and multiple functions
• very late finish
• If charity event doesn’t happen - can keep and vary consent to a later concert
• Concerts are loud! 964m from Mt Smart, they record 50% more than now at
• No one moved here to be next to concerts
• There is no doubt that, for most people, concerts at Eden Park will make our
neighbourhood a less attractive area to move in to.
Eden Park have applied before - declined by
Independent Commissioners and Environment Court Judge. As part of the increase
in night games from 16 to 25, they withdrew concerts and assured Council, the
Environment Court and ourselves they would concentrate on sport and not
concerts. Previous applications at least had a noise level limit proposed -
albeit at a level deemed unacceptable - this one does not.
While linked to a charity, the event itself looks fully commercial, and
it doesn't detail charity funding sources. Given the charity hasn't
confirmed/signed the artist, telethon parts etc, there is a very real chance
that if the event doesn't go ahead after gaining consent, Eden Park Trust could
keep and vary the consent (likely non-notified) to a later concert of their
choosing. So relying on the "charity" element as justification, comes
• Noise levels are complex - a 10 dBA increase
is a doubling (100% increase) in noise
• Application understates noise levels. Only
uses 2 speaker arrays, with wrong location
• Should have used 4-6 speaker arrays / some
angled towards houses, height near the
top of Terraces and base speakers across front
of the stage.
• And relay tower speakers hung from cranes
part way down ground, and possibly
• you and
your family's details / ages etc / work and school commitments the next day
• impacts you get from full capacity events now - eg traffic, parking, crowds, disruption
etc how this will affect you for this concert.
• likely concert noise effects on you - distance from ground, level you expect and
how that will impct on you nd your family
• if you’re close to the ground, the 7-8 days of construction, all the truck movements
• detail the impacts from the later finish time for the concert.
• raise any areas where the application is deficient in details eg Telethon, noise of
stage build, proper area wide noise analysis
• also explain the cumulative impact of the concert, the 7-8 days of build/removal,
sound testing, checks and all the normal day to day events in Feb/March.
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